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To the Editor:

It was with great regret that I read the lead article written by my friend, editor Larry Gordon, in last week’s 5 Towns Jewish Times. The title, “Medical Dilemmas,” implies there is a medical dilemma regarding vaccinations. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Dr. Aaron Glatt

Unfortunately, we are in the midst of a preventable measles outbreak in our communities, one of many in recent years. I was truly saddened, but more importantly, afraid for our children, by the suggestion that there are “two sides” to this story. There are not. I feel compelled to reiterate some of the comments I made in an article published in this paper just a few weeks back. I unfortunately do not have the time to fully address each of the major points of misinformation that you (and others) stated, but I will address what I can in the piece below.

There is no medical dilemma. Regarding vaccination against the major vaccine-preventable childhood illnesses, The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the World Health Organization, the Infectious Diseases Society of America, all 50 State Departments of Health in the United States, the Pediatric Infectious Disease Society, the American College of Physicians, plus every other major professional infection organization in the world, opine unanimously. Bar none. There is no expert organization that disagrees.

The evidence is overwhelming that vaccination is the only way to control these preventable fatal diseases. Chasdei Hashem – no one dies anymore of smallpox; polio is almost wiped out – solely, and only because of very successful vaccination programs. Why should anyone in 5779 die from measles? The article stated – without quoting any source – the ludicrous statement that it is beneficial to get childhood illnesses (which rachmana leztlan are potentially fatal) because it strengthens the immune system and prevents people from getting cancer later in life. This is totally unfounded and there is not a single valid study that supports such madness.

Because measles has spread in our communities, schools have been closed and unvaccinated children have been barred entry into their yeshivas. Think of the bitul Torah. Think of the unbelievable chilul Hashem when papers and media identify it is Orthodox Jews not vaccinating and putting others at risk. So many Jewish and non-Jewish colleagues have questioned me about this: does Jewish law truly forbid vaccination?  At this time of Chanukah, when Jewish education was forbidden, we should be especially concerned about attacks on our holy mesorah.

Unfortunately, these attacks are different: they are coming from within, not from without. It was stated that HaRav Shmuel Kamenetsky and HaRav Malkiel Kotler came out against vaccination, implying it is halachically forbidden. That is incorrect. There is no poseik ever who has forbidden modern day vaccinations. NONE. Further, a basic journalist faux pas was committed by trivializing the vaccination side, stating “other rabbonim are in favor of the practice”. Who are these “other rabbonim”? They represent the vast majority of poskim of great renown.

Almost all cases of measles today are directly related to unvaccinated people spreading their illness to others. There is absolutely no one who disagrees with the psak that a parent is required to remove one’s child to safety when a danger is present. To allow a child with potential illness into school is a matter of pikuach nefashos. This was reiterated recently by HaRav Moshe Sternbuch in a very strongly worded teshuva to the very same Rav Malkiel Kotler of Lakewood that you quoted. This position was strongly seconded by HaRav Elya Brudny at the recent Agudah convention. Both poskim hold that parents should get their children vaccinated and that yeshivas should not allow unvaccinated children in class, based upon the overwhelming medical evidence supporting this halachic opinion.

The Mir in Eretz Yisroel paskened that all their 6,000 or so talmidim must get vaccinated. Indeed, HaRav Elyashiv zt”l, a world accepted gadol hador, viewed normal childhood vaccinations as an obligatory part of parental obligations. HaRav Asher Weiss, current poseik for Shaare Zedek Hospital, a premier Orthodox-run hospital in Eretz Yisroel, says it is a mitzvah and chiyuv to get vaccinated, and he further states that yeshivas have the right, and even obligation, to protect other students, and should not allow unvaccinated children into school. This is also the written psak of HaRav Yitzchok Zilberstein, as well as the psak of HaRav Elyashiv, who ruled that parents have the right to have unvaccinated children excluded from class so as not to cause unnecessary risks for their children. Many other gedolei Yisroel, including HaRav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach zt”l, HaRav Yehoshua Newirth, zt”l, and yibadeil bein chayim lechayim, HaRav J. David Bleich, HaRav Reuven Feinstein, HaRav Hershel Schachter and HaRav Mordechai Willig, shlita, have all ruled that there is no basis in halacha to suggest that vaccinations should be avoided. All strongly urge and support appropriate universal vaccination against the major childhood potentially fatal illness that are preventable.

Indeed, it is sheker (dishonest) to officially avow that Jewish law forbids vaccination – which is the only way in some states to avoid mandatory state vaccination laws by providing such a false attestation about our religion.

The thing that bothers me the most however, is that well-healed anti-vaxxers are now suing yeshivas that follow the psak of these gedolom. Can you think of a more horrible situation? What is the heter to go to a secular court before going to a Beis Din? What is the heter to make our underfunded impoverished yeshivas spend huge sums of money defending their halachic right to bar such students? Shame, shame on such people. You are forcing yeshivas to waste highly limited resources to defend the rights of all the other children to a safe classroom environment, instead of using those funds intensifying Torah study. Worse – most Yeshivas do not have the funds or ability to fight and are forced to capitulate to this extortion. What halachic right do you have to impose your unscientific minority opinion on all of Klal Yisroel?

Continued tomorrow: The false arguments against vaccinations

Rabbi Aaron E. Glatt, MD, is board certified in Internal Medicine and Infectious Diseases; Chairman, Medicine, and Chief of Infectious Diseases / Hospital Epidemiologist at South Nassau Communities Hospital and a local rav who gives daily halacha shiurim and lectures on numerous medical and halachic issues.

24 COMMENTS

    • Shame on you UOJ for ingnorently attacking the Calev and Yehushua of our generation who actually spent many hours looking into vaccines, their contents, their lack of safety studies, know about the pharmaceutical payoffs and how they fund schools and medical journals.

      These Rabbis listen to the thousands of parents of vaccine damaged kids, unlike most other Rabbis who blindly trust their local Doctor who was trained in pharama funded schools, with no real futher investigation.

      Intellegent and informed Rabbis like Rabbi Handler know 1,000 X’s more than you on this topic.
      Shame on you !
      http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/the-measles-scare-and-cdc-politics/2013/07/10/

  1. “There is no other opion”
    Sounds like a liberal tyrant to me.

    I emailed R. Dr Glatt months ago asking if he is aware of the toxins in vaccines and the incredible damage they cause including allergies for life, chronic and mental illness like autism and death! I sent him a link to information about Dr. William Thomson who worked for the CDC for over a decade blew the whistle and exposed their fraud studies that covered up the link between vaccines and autism.

    I also Showed him other Big Phrama whistle-blowers like Brandy Vaughan, Gwen Olsen who can been seen online testifying, who worked for Big Pharma and exposed their lies and how they fund and manipulate studies in medical school, journals and Government ministries like the CDC, FDA, AMA and AAP

    Less so for the EPA and HHS where many conflicting data is said. Like the EPA says if a vaccine vile breaks on the floor you need to clear the room, call in a Hazmat team to clean up the toxins like mercury since it’s one of the most toxic thing for Humans after Plutonium, YET, the FDA and fools like Dr. Glatt think it’s perfectly safe to inject those SAME toxins into your little babies. With NO studies from the HHS that they are safe as required by LAW since 1986!

    And YES thimerosal / mercury is still in vaccines, they are in the combines ones, DTAP, the MMR, the flu, and in smaller amounts in all vaccines, the FDA doesn’t require them to list it if it’s trace amounts, like 1 microgram or less per dose. But when you add up that about in 72 doses if DOUBLE the amount that used to intentionally put in all vaccines.

    I told him about “National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act” from 1986 and how since then you can’t even sue the vaccine manufacturer for damage and death which happens from vaccines all the time, and is completely unethical and against Halacha.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1PiR4PkCh0

    I showed him thousands of testimonies from parents of damaged and killed children from vaccines, and said If we had a REAL Sanhedrin they would be making their testimonies to them and being heard unlike the unethical Government “Vaccine Court” in America.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwZDSEpPvE398OLazdituKQ/videos?disable_polymer=1

    His exact quote was.

    …………………………………………………………………………………………

    {“With all due respect, there is not one scientific published paper supporting what you wrote. Not one. Everything you sent is a person’s anecdotal story or opinion.”…

    “It is ridiculous to say every legitimate scientist at the CDC et al are bought off and blind. Nobody would say that about any other illness.”

    “Pharmaceutical manufacturers are running away from making vaccines because there is no profit in it – we have so few willing to even make mainstream vaccines because there is little profit and much to lose via lawsuits in them.”}

    ……………………………………………………………………………………………

    First he has no clue what he’s talking about, he clearly knows nothing about the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act and that you can NOT sue them.

    They are making MORE and MORE vaccines every year since 1986 since that have no liability for their damage and unheard of thing in America that does not apply to any other company, and they make Billions of Dollars off them and the drugs they sell for life for the sickness and misery they cause with all their toxins.

    Did he ever see or did your doctor ever show you this list of toxins in the vaccines?

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appVaccines with trace amounts of thimerosal contain 1 microgram or less of mercury per dose.endices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

    Despite this, The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) or Vaccine Court was set up in 1988 as a government court under the Health and Human Services and department of Justice, and will compensate people for vaccine damage since the Supreme Court admits that vaccines are UNAVOIDABLE UNSAFE!

    So far they Vaccine Court has paid out over $3.8 BILLION which is only for a small fraction of the injuries and death that vaccines have caused, due to their VERY strict procedures for filing, like if you report a vaccine damage 31 days instead of 30 days too late! your out of luck! This means they ADMIT vaccines cause damage and DEATH!

    Over 5,400 cases of vaccine induced autism have been filed in the US Vaccine Injury Court and because of the astronomical financial burden, they have now moved to a separate “Omnibus Autism Proceeding.”

    With all this public data, Dr. Glatt still wants you to risk your child’s life and future with injecting them with the most dangerous toxins that is known to cause damage and death.

    Another inconvenient fact is that almost no one contracting measles in America in the past decade has died, where as over a hundred people have reported to VARES that their healthy children were KILLED BY THE MMR!

    This makes the vaccine 100 X’s more fatally dangerous than actually getting the measles!

    I sent him info from a whistle-blower Dr. Thomson from the CDC and he decided to make the CDC “God like” and infallible and incapable of lying without even listening to the many recorded hours of Dr. Thomson telling Dr. Brain Hooker about the Fraud and cover ups at the CDC.

    Dr. Glatt blindly supports their lies that endangers people and the compunity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIRXxEYnkxA

    I sent him MANY peer review studies proving how dangerous vaccines, are he did not even read ONE!

    Some here: https://avscientificsupportarsenal.wordpress.com

    1,000 more studies here! https://vaccine-injury.info/pdf/vaccinepeerreview.pdf

    His mind was made up in medical school and he can not be confused with facts that challenge that view.

    Vaccines did NOT get rid of smallpox or polio, it’s another medical propaganda lie put out by big pharma and taught to Doctors in medical schools which are FUNDED and were even created by Big Pharma to sell their drugs. Here is the truth.

    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/01/18/history-vaccination.aspx

    Big Pharma like IGFarben and Merk and the schools set up to promote their drugs, have their roots in funding the Nazis and making the Gas to murder the Jews in the death camps, but lets trust them they CARE about people!!!

    http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/western-medicine-rockefeller-medicine/

    I get it that not everyone will do all this research since they trust their Doctors and Rabbis like R. Dr. Glatt, but I would expect HIM to read the other side and respond to it. Like any real impartial Bet Din would do.

    Yet he proves he is bias and brainwashed by his medical school education and can not be an honest broker of the relevant information.

    BTW Measles barely kills, kids used to get it all the time along with chicken pox. It makes them naturally immune for life, unlike the vaccine, and the REAL antibodies that a kid gets can prevent him from getting cancer. NOT good for Big Pharma who make BILLIONS of chemo (Mustard Gas) which then kills most of the fools who keep coming back to Big Pharmas death store for more!

    Drs. Like Dr Glatt are only to happy to sell or promote their toxins.

    Rav Chaim Kanievsky and Rav Shmuel Kaminetzky as well of the Rabbanim in Lakewood like Rav Kotler children of the Gedolei hador all said you can NOT prevent an unvaccinated child from entering school. If you don’t like it keep your kids home.

    If you are So… scared of your kids getting measles using Homeoprophylaxis you can get Nosode Morbilinum which is a homeopathic like vaccine WITHOUT all the toxins in them. It works much better and is not harmful. Don’t expect a Pharma funded school educated Dr. to tell your about this.

    https://freeandhealthychildren.org/2015/01/24/what-to-do-for-measles/

    And finally, when was the last time Dr. Glatt got 72 vaccines? including the MMR? Even if he got it as a kid according to the manufacture it’s only good for 10-20 years. So unless he got all those vaccines in the last decade or two, HE is JUST as unvaccinated as all the kids he want to vaccinate. HE is Just as DANGEROUS and should stay away from his grandchildren and all other people so they can’t get the measles from HIM!!!

    This is according to his own flawed irrational logic!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nugXXqsFEJQ&t=52s

    The emes is coming out and people are waking up to the truth about the danger in vaccines with their toxins and will not be brainwashed by fear tactics of Big Pharma and their Salesmen no matter how many degrees or Smicha they have. At a Shaare Tzedek maternal sign up event in Beit Shemesh Israel, some vaccine awareness volunteers were handing out information about the dangers of vaccines. Out of about 200 expecting moms they personally met, 4 told us they KNOW that vaccines cause Autism since their perfectly healthy kids became Autistic AFTER a vaccine! That’s 1 out of 50 kids becoming Autistic being confirmed in Beit Shemesh. These parents and victim kids have NO voice.

    People like Dr. Glatt cruelty ignore or dismiss these mothers, and continue to push toxic vaccines which will surely cause more damage and death to those who naively trust him!

    Kids become chronically and mentally ill for life from these vaccines as admitted by Vax Court.

    Doesn’t the Torah say לפני עיוור לא תתן מכשול?

    Kids die from these vaccines, doesn’t the Torah say לא תעמוד על דם רעך?

    Zev Jabotinsky spent years warning Jews to get out of Europe. 200,000 listened to him.

    6,000,000 listened to their Rabbis and Doctors and ignored him. They called him an evacuationist, alarmist, conspiracy quack! They followed their blind “so smart” leaders to the Gas Chambers, with Gas made by the same companies making the vaccines TODAY. Read his bone chilling prophetic speech here:

    http://www.gefenpublishinginisrael.com/2012/07/29/zeev-jabotinskys-1937-tisha-baav-message-in-warsaw-poland/

    DON’T be a fool! THINK for yourself Hashem gave you a BRAIN!!!

    https://www.learntherisk.org

    The measles came from the Ukraine from a Measles VACCINE MMR induced breakout. Measles was down to an all time low, and SO were vaccinations under 30% vaccinated. The WHO World Horror Origination brought in a vaccination campaign to Ukraine and measles cases shot up by over 1,600% FROM the MMR vaccine.

    Someone from Israel got this VACCINE induced measles strain, brought it back to Israel, then they injected MORE people with the MMR live virus in Israel causing another 1,400 cases, and some people brought it back to America, so now they want MORE MMR and MORE shedding and more measles. This can easily be proven with a lab test by showing it’s the vaccine strain, did they do that???

    Healthy kids don’t walk around with every disease.
    People who were vaccinated with the MMR measles disease DO shed and spread it.
    If you are all SO concerned you should announce all recently vaccinated kids should NOT go to school for 30 days so they don’t shed onto other, just like the hospitals demand.

    If you think the vaccine works good for you, your kids is protected and can come back to school after 30 days. If you think everyone else needs to get injected obviously you don’t think it works. And don’t start with Herd immunity crap, the only Herd here is this insane “”HERD mentality”” which is reminiscent of the Nazi propaganda machine.

    ALL you reading this are NOT immune from measles unless you GOT it as a kid.
    The vaccine only lasts 10-20 years TOPS. So… that means you ALL need to get vaccinated for the MMR and 72 OTHER vaccines the CDC recommend or you endanger all people all the time since YOU are unvaxinated.

    So until you all do that S…t UP!!! and stop the Machlokes and Chilul Hashem.

    https://stichtingvaccinvrij.nl/outbreak-of-over-12000-cases-of-measles-in-ukraine-is-caused-by-recent-vaccination-campaign/

    https://www.westonaprice.org/public-health-officials-know-recently-vaccinated-individuals-spread-disease/#.W-kCYcYTq0U.facebook

    “452 people DIED from the MMR vaccine
    https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/measles/measles-vaccine-injury-death.aspx450

    ONLY 11 died from the measles since 2000
    https://vaxopedia.org/2018/04/15/when-was-the-last-measles-death-in-the-united-states/amp/?fbclid=IwAR3BikBtlf_8TGj2dPl45V5D3MJJAOKyBHAXl6ora-TF-eaQUyR5ex3nVeI
    This makes the MMR vaccine 40X’s more lethal.
    Ban the MMR vaccine, Save Lives.

    https://explainlife.com/harvard-unvaccinated-children-pose-zero-risk-2742/

  2. Where is your EMUNAH?

    Have you come to the point that you have no faith….better yet trust in Hashem? Why do you daven on Rosh Hashanah to be written in a Sefer Chayim – is it just lip service? Do you not believe that ultimately Hashem is in charge of the decision of who dies and who does not? Do you skip over “Rofey Choley Amo Yisrael”? If you have such great misplaced emunah in the medical establishment instead of Hakadosh Baruch Hu – then go ahead and shoot yourself and everyone else that you have dominion over with whatever you want. I on the other hand have total emunah and bitachon. In the midbar the only thing that stopped the magefa was tshuvah and tefillah, and I believe you need to start davening hard. Are you so misguided in your hashkafah that this is the only salvation you see? I would love for the world to be healthy and for there not to be any death, but that is not how Hashem created the world. Unfortunately there is no cure for death, and we must do everything in our power to keep ourselves healthy. We must eat right, and exercise, and ensure general well being, but I will stop short of injecting myself with attenuated diseases, laced with aluminum grown in aborted fetal cells, some of which make it in to that vaccine.
    I would like to address some of your misinformed statements below.
    1. Potentially fatal diseases – the conversation here is about measles? The disease that killed 400 to 500 people (Lo Aleynu) out of 3 to 4 million people infected in 1963 which was the last major outbreak in US (I assume you trust CDC since you referred to them in your article) https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html. I would not wish a death on anyone, or especially a child, but there are thousands of ways that someone can die, and I trust that Hashem will find a way to make something happen if He needs to, and we can never understand his reasons for doing so. The whole sefer Eeyov (Job) is dedicated to that understanding alone. Measles does not seem like a scary disease everyone is making it out to be, smallpox has been eradicated, so no longer poses the dangers that it did of killing nearly 30% of people it affected, polio vaccine (IPV) and Whooping Cough vaccine (aP from DTaP) do not stop the spread of the disease and only mask the symptoms.
    2. You claimed that it is not beneficial to get childhood illnesses – for one it provides lifelong immunity to all of these childhood diseases, which I am sure Hashem made no mistakes putting them out there. Just like everyone complains about the mosquito and would love to eradicate the mosquito, but we all know that there is a reason why they are here and we could be potentially causing unknown harm to the world by eradicating them
    3. Bitul Torah – It is the fact that under your direction and direction of other misguided Rabbonim like you, that our children are being excluded from schools for no good reason. Why you ask I say no good reason? If vaccines are so great, then you should have no reason to fear a couple of unvaccinated children, unless you actually admit that they are a farce, and they don’t work. That is your choice but you can’t sit on the fence with that one – pick a side. I trust Hashem 100%. If the measles vaccine is 97% effective can’t you trust Hashem with the just the 3%?
    4. Chilul Hashem – Instead of suing them for discrimination and civil liberties infringement, you come after the 2% – 4% of your own that don’t vaccinate? You are playing right in to their playbook. You are falling for their tactics. You should be ashamed for getting fooled. Do you see the newspaper articles about 40,000 measles cases in Western Europe? No – because it does not fit their narrative, it is easier to shame the Jew. Where is the ADL(Jewish Anti Defamation League)? Chilul Hashem is that Jews are going against your own brothers and sisters and attacking them because of “what will people say”, what will the papers write about us? That is unfortunately reminiscent of the Hellenistic times in Israel when a few had to go against the many. Most Jews eventually sided with the Greeks back then if you remember. Open your eyes and see what’s happening. This is anti-Semitism hiding in plain sight. NYC DOHMH(Department of Health), which has always been very politically correct, is a proof of this. During the Ebola outbreak it did not single out race creed or religion, all it said in its warning, was that it was coming from West Africa. With this measles outbreak, they specifically sited Orthodox Jewish Schools and communities. There is no political correctness when it comes to us, because they know that they can shame some of us for being orthodox, and for being associated with this issue. I would almost call it Jew-shaming. No warnings about travel to Europe where there is a wide-spread epidemic. They just want you to be careful of the Jew.
    5. I am sure that many poskim have come out saying that we should vaccinate, because you know just like I do, it is how you word the question when you ask it. Have any of them been given all the sides of the story?
    a. Most of these diseases have very low statistical probability of fatalities – much less then walking on a street and getting hit by a car in NYC, or then getting killed by a California wild fires.
    b. Most of these diseases are meant to be had as children – they are actually much more dangerous as adults. When vaccine effectiveness wanes like it usually does – which is why CDC is about to release a recommendation to add a 3rd dose of MMR to the schedule, these adults are put in a much more harmful situation by the waning vaccine immunity, then a lifelong immunity acquired by a wild form of the same disease.
    c. Halacha of pikuach nefesh must constitute clear and present danger. There is no pikuach nefesh in a hypothetical – it must be concrete danger. You say “to allow a child with a potential illness into a school is a matter of pikuach nefesh” not only are you fearmongering like a whole lot of doctors do, you are also speculating. To have a potential illness is part of the human condition.
    6. Sheker is what you are touting, that the Hewish children must be excluded from schools for being unvaccinated. By excluding the unvaccinated children from Jewish schools and claiming that there is not religious exemption to vaccination according to Judaism, the schools under the guidance of the likes of you, are forcing the parents to sue in regular court because they are breaking the NY State law that allows the families to be exempt from vaccination based on their own religious beliefs. That means you cannot tell me what my relationship with Hakadosh Baruch Hu is. As you know many communities and many Rabbonim can have a different interpretation based on the same Shulcha Aruch and the same Gemarrah. We are not Catholic and we do not have a pope to mandate and dictate. You may or may not eat rice on Pesach. You may or may not put foods that have some liquid in them on a blech on Shabbos. You may or may not accept Shabbos according to Rabeynu Tam. You may or may not be ok with Shaitels as opposed to burning in everlasting geheinom for wearing one. You may or may not wait 6 hours between meat and dairy. But this one issue on vaccination – there is no argument. This is the only mahalach! Nobody argues? Are you serious? You have a right to claim your opinion, but we are the people of the book. We are the people that ask questions. We are the people that get in to deep machloket le shem shamayim, but with a lot of respect towards each other. All we are seeing is vitriol and complete lack of respect.

    Chanukah Sameach.

  3. Why is 5TJT publishing the rantings of a completely ignorant, uneducated person, unworthy of his titles. Please do some research. Gregory Poland, Editor of the Journal “Vaccine” has written, “eradication (complete elimination of the global spread and transmission)
    of measles is unlikely as modeling studies suggest that
    herd immunity of approximately 95% or greater is required to
    eliminate persisting measles endemicity [10]. Because field studies
    demonstrated evidence of primary vaccine failure and population levels
    of immunity below this threshold, the U.S., like many other
    countries, adopted a two-dose measles vaccination policy in the
    early 1990s. However, even with two documented doses of measles
    vaccine, our laboratory demonstrated that 8.9% of 763 healthy
    children immunized a mean of 7.4 years earlier lacked protective
    levels of circulating measles-specific neutralizing antibodies
    [11], suggesting that even two doses of the current vaccine may be
    insufficient at the population level.”
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905323/
    Read, HERD IMMUNITY CANNOT BE ACHIEVED WITH THIS VACCINE. It is not effective enough.

  4. The boy who brought measles to Lakewood from EY was fully vaccinated with boosters.
    The lady that started the measles epidemic in Disney World was vaccinated as well.
    How do you claim that it’s the unvaccinated people spreading measles?

  5. Dr. Glatt is technically correct. There is no medical dilemma. The info is there, hidden in plain sight. The pharma companies are held harmless from liability, since 1986. The vaccine court set up as part of that legislation recently hit the 4 billion dollar mark in payouts for vaccine injuries. The safety studies that were to have been done as part of this legislation were not, as recently brought out in litigation by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. As for mosdos in our communities not accepting religious exemptions and requiring vaccinations for attendance, that’s TUITION, the price paid for obtaining a Torah education in our schools. Vaccine damage with seizures, allergies, rheumatoid arthritis, Crohn’s disease etc, that’s the icing on the cake! The whole vaccine construct is based on a false premise. And we are in the middle of a paradigm shift. Unfortunately, instead of using critical and analytical thinking, we are engaging in hysteria, finger pointing, shaming and blaming. Please, don’t believe me. Please, do your own research. Check the CDC websites for the vaccine inserts. Check the ICAN website (Informed Consent Action Network). Check this link about the vaccine injury payout. https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/data/index.html This is just the tip of the iceberg.

  6. Dr. Glatt is living in the 1960’s when there were 3 vaccines without all the toxins and without fetal DNA which only God knows how it’s causing genetic mutations as admitted in the vaccine insert from Merk which Dr Glatt will NOT show you if he even read it himself. He is simply not in touch with what’s going on in 2018.

    1/2 of American kids have some health issues. Wether it’s allergies like, can’t have penuts in school, asthma, ADD, Chronic and mental ilnesess including Autistic spectrum as Shlomo pointed out is at least 1 in 50 in Israel and 1 in 36 in the USA.

    Vaccinated kids are MUCH sicker. Newer Doctors have been taught that this is normal.
    Well it wasn’t in the 1960’s when kids got measles and chickenpox like normal kids just Google the Brady Bunch measles.

    Also Dr. Meyer Eisenstein in Chicago had 35,000 children in his practice. Unlike Dr. Glatt and most Doctors he looked into vaccines years ago and saw the dangers. MOST of his patients were not vaccinated, and they had NO cases of Autisim among those kids and way less sickness. So even if they did get the measles or chicken pox, non died and all were more healthy and immune for life when older and pregnant.

    http://www.whale.to/a/eisenstein_h.html

  7. Mass vaccination campaigns don’t work anyway, and violates peoples freedom of choice and their God given right to determine what goes into their body especially toxins like Mercury, Aluminum heavy metals, formaldyhide, ploysorbate 80, phenol, monkey, pig and human DNA. They tried it in communist China, and just causes damage and death.

    Don’t suggest more death Dr Glatt. If you like vaccines inject them into yourself and your family. And do you have all the vaccines the CDC recommends today ???
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/why-china-having-measles-outbreaks-when-99-are-vaccinated-2?fbclid=IwAR2Iq0eIudbFZHBsB7GGGQTDvMKA_Fh_R_nMplzH1Emh5qFikvIrZkUKSik

  8. No medical dilemma? According to whom? Parents of vaccine injured children? Surely the author of this article sat down with “the other side”, with parents who have lost children, in some way shape or form, to the needle, before making such a declaration. There is a VERY STRONG and rapidly growing number of parents who are standing up and saying no. There are DOCTORS who are standing up and explaining SCIENTIFICALLY why vaccines are more dangerous then what we were once led to believe. And yet, we still have people who claim that there is nothing to talk about. The science has been settled. Vaccines really do not cause encephalitis, encephalopathy, Guillain-Bar syndrome, seizures, anaphylaxis, diabetes, transverse myalitis, SIDS, death and the list goes on… Click on the link below to see for yourself. Adverse reactions are listed on the vaccine package inserts. Unless of course you don’t want to look, Bec the science is settled. They are safe and there is no medical dilemma.

    http://immunize.org/fda/#japen

    And the ingredients. You conveniently left those out of your article. But that’s ok, the science is settled and there is nothing to talk about. Vaccines are safe.

  9. Doctors like Dr. Glatt trust what their are taught in school what’s written in medical journals , the CDC and WHO.
    We Get that.
    But… Who funds all these institutions?

    A good investigator usually follows the money trail. Big Pharma was being sued in the 1980’s so much from vaccine damage they were going out of business. They cleverly convinced Reagan and congress to pass the The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) of 1986 (42 U.S.C. §§ 300aa-1 to 300aa-34) This gives them complete “immunity” from lawsuits. This means if a child drops dead within hours of getting a vaccine as has happened many times, you can NOT sue the vaccine manufacture. With a SCAM like that Big Pharma has nothing to lose, and billions to gain. Since then, there are now 72 recommended vaccines up from 5 when we were kids, and hundreds in the pipeline.

    There has been a Revolving Door between The FDA CDC, and Big Pharma for years.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZF_iWETXz0
    And Big Pharama has paid off Gov health officials all over the world, like millions to officials in the WHO https://www.globalpolicy.org/home/270-general/52830-who-do-financial-contributions-from-pharma-violate-who-guidelines.html

    Sometimes countries fine them sometime times not.
    ———————————————————-
    GlaxoSmithKline to Plead Guilty and Pay $3 Billion to Resolve Fraud Allegations and Failure to Report Safety Data
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/glaxosmithkline-plead-guilty-and-pay-3-billion-resolve-fraud-allegations-and-failure-report

    GlaxoSmithKline fined $490m by China for bribery
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-29274822

    Japanese health authorities said Friday that they have ordered the local unit of Swiss pharmaceutical giant Novartis to temporarily suspend its operations for failing to report drug side effects.
    https://www.thelocal.ch/20150227/japan-orders-novartis-unit-to-suspend-operations

    WHO Advisor Secretly Pads Pockets with Big Pharma Money
    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/01/07/who-advisor-secretly-pads-pockets-with-big-pharma-money.aspx
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    As you go down the chain, the money flows and less people are aware who is financing the people who are making health policies.

    However Dr Glatt and all Doctors putting all their faith in these pharma funded institutions as if it’s Torat Moshe Mesinai while ignoring who funds it, is not only naive but simply foolish.

    The Torah clearly says you can not trust someone who takes a Shochad yet these Doctors do , the Rabbis should be made aware of this Shochad , which Doctors most likely do not share with the Rabbis.

    Thank God Many hard working and busy physicians are becoming aware of the truth and more and more are joining groups like. https://physiciansforinformedconsent.org

    They are still in the minority of physicians and quite frankly the way the system is set up, it’s NOT their job to research the safety and history of vaccines. They trust what they are taught in their pharma funded schools and what’s written in most pharma funded journals.

    It’s a good story that vaccines made all diseases go away people like to hear that, (even though most were down 90+% BEFORE the vaccines were even introduced) measles was down 98% from 1900-1963 BEFORE the vaccine even came out. Yet Dr. Glatt will claim vaccines are what made measles rate go down. This is simply incorrect.

    Drs. Generally don’t question it. In some places like the USA vaccines are 50% of their income, so this does not help give them an incentive to do more research. Plus if there are adverse reactions to the vaccines, they are not liable, how convenient!
    If you can sue them BOY would they notice a LOT more.
    —————-
    The ones who are DUPED are the customers and population who blindly trust everything their Doctors recommend without being informed or educated about it. While it may be more convenient to simply trust everything a doctor tell you, “which they may have learned in their pharma funded schools” every intelligent person who cares about the health and future of their children should research controversial things especially like vaccines which are loaded with some of the most dangerous toxins known to man.

    Doctors used to recommend bloodletting, smoking and DDT pesticide which caused most cases of polio paralysis. As well as many drugs which killed people like viox.

    Before letting someone inject toxins into your kids, you may want to really know if any safety studies were done on those SPECIFIC contents in the vaccine, and what the potential adverse reactions can be. Many of this info is on the insert, which few people or doctors for that matter have ever read.

    Here are some basic quick facts about vaccines everyone should know. This is an important topic for all.
    http://www.arevaccinessafe.org

  10. I challenge Dr Glatt to a public debate !

    When millions around the world are standing up to the MAFIA control of our healthcare, the real chilul hashem is Avi Glatt’s lies

  11. Parents should have a choice of what is injected into their children. Everyone reacts differently so don’t treat everyone the same way. We are individuals not robots.

  12. IG Farben / Bayer and Merk vaccine manufactures experimented on Jews in the concentration camps with vaccines and made the gas to murder millions of Jews.

    While I can agree that not ALL the info below is 100% accurate, if even 1/2 is, isn’t this relevent information ?
    Are Doctors taught about this ?

    1/2 of the German Doctors joined the Nazi party, i’m NOT saying today’s Doctors are Nazis, but clearly educated people like Doctors can fall for BAD and false idiologies that lead to harm and death. In the name of the public health or the greater good of course.

    Where does the word inDOCTONATE come from???

    Fool us once shame on you, fool us for 80 years shame on who???

    https://exopolitics.blogs.com/ebolagate/2015/04/to-all-legislators-across-the-us-concerning-vaccine-mandates-.html

    https://newspunch.com/nazi-mass-murderer-became-chairman-at-vaccine-drug-company-in-1950s/?fbclid=IwAR1gTt-znDLlFKxFAcg9sUMOicrOmorTppFGUbkSVEwh7LVYzTA2av9UfHU

  13. Regarding excluding unvaccinated kids from yeshiva: Does herd immunity exist or doesn’t it? Classical herd immunity has been shown with measles immunity rates of 65% or above, and the WHO’s immunization goals for eradication of measles by 2020 are at least 90% globally and at least 80% regionally. What are the immunization rates at these yeshivas? Are they really below 80%, the threshold for what should produce sufficient herd immunity to protect the unvaccinated minority according to the WHO? If herd immunity exists, then the unvaccinated minority should be totally protected. Isn’t that how it works? Why do we need to exclude them?

  14. I would like to comment on how studies have shown that childhood illnesses CAN possibly protect against cancer (and heart disease). Perhaps Hashem knew what He was doing.
    Here are some studies, with links and excerpts:

    https://www.bcm.edu/news/cancer/chicken-pox-may-reduce-risk-of-brain-cancer?fbclid=IwAR1m1ZF-iF-LwpMaI5180-J5tYC-KaibZNbgTlFnCeyLNUatZzP7M3S (March 2016)
    History of chicken pox may reduce risk of brain cancer later in life
    Excerpt: In one of the largest studies to date, an international consortium led by researchers in the Dan L Duncan Comprehensive Cancer Center at Baylor College of Medicine reported an inverse relationship between a history of chicken pox and glioma, a type of brain cancer, meaning that children who have had the chicken pox may be less likely to develop brain cancer.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16490323 (February 2006)
    Acute infections as a means of cancer prevention: opposing effects to chronic infections?
    Excerpt: Results: Exposures to febrile infectious childhood diseases were associated with subsequently reduced risks for melanoma, ovary, and multiple cancers combined, significant in the latter two groups. Epidemiological studies on common acute infections in adults and subsequent cancer development found these infections to be associated with reduced risks for meningioma, glioma, melanoma and multiple cancers combined, significantly for the latter three groups. Overall, risk reduction increased with the frequency of infections, with febrile infections affording the greatest protection. In contrast to acute infections, chronic infections can be viewed as resulting from a failed immune response and an increasing number have been associated with an elevated cancer risk.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2951028/ (August 2010)
    Mumps and ovarian cancer: modern interpretation of an historic association
    Excerpt: Prior to vaccination, mumps was generally a mild illness but could have serious sequelae including orchitis and sterility, meningitis and deafness, and pancreatitis. Nevertheless, our study suggests there could also have been unanticipated long-term anticancer benefits of a mumps infection, such as we have described in this paper.

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/cam4.682 (March 2016)
    History of chickenpox in glioma risk: a report from the glioma international case–control study (GICC)
    Excerpt: In our study, a positive history of chickenpox was associated with a 21% lower glioma risk, adjusting for age and sex. The protective effect of chickenpox was stronger for high-grade glioma, particularly among those under age 40. Our findings, which represent the results of the largest study to date on this topic, confirm the inverse associations previously reported in the literature on VZV and glioma. (Gliomas are brain and spinal cord tumors)

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16406019 (August 2006)
    Do childhood diseases affect NHL (non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma) and HL (Hodgkin’s Lymphoma) risk? A case-control study from northern and southern Italy
    Excerpt: Our findings provide additional support to the hypothesis that infections by most common childhood pathogens may protect against HL or, at least, be correlated with some other early exposure, which may lower the risk of HL in adulthood. In addition, our study shows that measles may provide a protective effect against NHL.

    https://www.atherosclerosis-journal.com/article/S0021-9150(15)01380-5/abstract (August 2015)
    Association of measles and mumps with cardiovascular disease: The Japan Collaborative Cohort (JACC) study
    Excerpt: Measles and mumps, especially in case of both infections, were associated with lower risks of mortality from atherosclerotic CVD (cardiovascular disease).
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    I would also like to add that their are adventitious agents*** in vaccines, which are supposed to be taken out/purified from the vaccine. However mistakes have happened. Below is article with link and excerpts:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5130882/
    Excerpts from: “Adventitious Agents and Live Viral Vectored Vaccines: Considerations for Archiving Samples of Biological Materials for Retrospective Analaysis,” VACCINE, December 2016:

    “For live viral vaccines…extensive adventitious agent clearance may not be feasible.”

    “Since many if not most vaccines globally will likely continue to be made using biological reagents for the foreseeable future, the possibility of adventitious contamination cannot be totally excluded.”

    “The development of some novel viral vaccines have necessitated the use of human tumorigenic and tumor-derived cell substrates, which could pose additional safety concerns related to the potential presence of unknown tumor viruses and latent viruses that may not be detected by the currently recommended assays.”

    “…However, the risk of introduction of adventitious agents through the use of other animal-derived substances such as trypsin during the production process remains.”

    “Although complete elimination of animal derived reagents from the manufacturing procedure leads to a substantial reduction of the risk of contamination, the risk cannot be completely eliminated since animal-derived raw materials might be used in the production process of non-animal derived raw material…. Further, it may be possible for viral contamination to arise from the chemical reageents for growth medium preparation….”

    *** Microorganisms such as bacteria, fungi, parasites, rickettsia, protozoa, transmissible spongiform encephalopathy agents and viruses.

    _____
    Thank you very much.

  15. Rav Shmuel Kaminetzky and Rav Malkiel Kotler are AGAINST vaccines. Rav Shmuel was quoted as saying it’s a sakana/danger, but the Rav can speak for himself. I don’t want to debate here, just point out that Dr. Glatt is not accurate nor does he seem to be intellectually honest. There is a treasure trove of studies to warn of vaccine danger, and so much conflict of interest of those swearing to their safety and efficacy in and out of our community.

    It is truly heartless not to at least acknowledge the deep pain of those who live with the pain of a vaccine injured child every day. Those mothers handed over healthy babies and got back less. They live with that pain and guilt as well. There needs to be more kindness here.

    The macholokes these strong armed tactics of communities and yeshivas have wrought has brought to klal yisrael to the most dangerous place of all. Hashem does not want this. The whipping up of the public is what the 10 meraglim did that horrible night of Tisha B’Av so long ago. Those were 10 leaders standing against 2.

    A controversy over measles has turned into an all out war on ALL vaccines. We could have dealt with the measles issue more calmly and intelligently than this. We are better than what has transpired. May Hashem have rachmanus on all of us. We ALL want what is best for our yiddishe children, so let’s act like it.

    It seems clear there are real problems with what we have now.

    – 1in 36 autistic!! Think about that, when it was 1 in 10,000 not long ago. But, don’t get hung up on the word autism – also think about the other vaccine injuries.

    – If vaccines were truly safe, we would all jump on board. So, let’s make them safe! No aluminum adjuvants to break the blood brain barrier! Let’s have real safety studies for vaccines like they do for any other drug.

    – Let’s look at the crazy schedule and multi-dose vaccines. They can surely be amended, lengthened and separated to increase safety.

    – Let’s look at genetics of the child and their propensity for autoimmune and neurological disease and toxic overload. Don’t say we do because we really don’t. When was the last a doctor ordered these tests BEFORE shooting up a child rather than AFTER the reaction.

    – Let’s make doctors report EVERY shot outcome, good and bad, to VAERS so there is full and complete information. Aren’t our children worth that? Now the reporting of injury is embarassing, pitiful and shameful and they still have paid out billions of dollars.

    – Let’s look at lifestyle before giving Hep B and HPV to babies and little girls at zero risk for getting those diseases.

    – Let’s have an honest frank look as to why childhood diabetes (auto immune) and brain tumors (blood brain barrier breach) have skyrocketed.

    We all love our children and we should all love each other. The anger and shaming of those who are trying to do their best by their children is not what Hashem wants of His children. This all could have been done b’nachas and not b’tza’ar. The vitriole and hate of those with vaccinated children toward those who are not is truly out of control. It is clear that ALL parents are trying to do what is best for these precious souls, so let’s act like it.

    Let’s have a respectful but FULL debate on this issue leaving NO STONE UNTURNED. ALL voices must be heard. Let us turn machlokes into achdus by showing Hashem we can work together and this could be the thing to tip the scales to bring mashiach. Let’s prove we are deserving of geula. This will only work, though, if ALL voices on ALL sides are heard in a calm way. We need to do better for our children, klal yisrael and the world.

    If we show true rachmanus on others, Hashem will show it on all of us.

    Signed with love of Hashem and klal yisrael.

  16. How about the fact that there are a hoard of MD pediatric doctors who are now making it their life’s work to heal vaccine injured kids with success? Are you going to say that they don’t know what they are talking about too?
    What about the BILLIONS of dollars paid out to vaccine injured or KILLED children paid out through the VACCINE COURT? That’s right! There is a court JUST for vaccine injuries and death. Almost everyone who sits and vouches for vaccine safety have never read a vaccine insert. In fact most of you don’t even come to think that it exists altogether. How would you look a mother in the eye who SAW her child SEIZE immediately after a shot and tell her it is not related? Or when her child dies the same day? Could you really be that heartless or brainless?
    It is unfortunate that so many doctors are so blind and bribed. Yes, bribed. From all the BONUSES they get from insurances if they have a high vaccine compliance rate in their practice. Talk about conflict of interest.
    So Dr. Glatt lets make a deal. How about you toss those bonuses through the window and read some actual medical literature. I’ll settle if you read a single vaccine insert, from the package, not a CDC print out they ask you to remember and sell. See if you still think your “arguments” are legit and if you truly do care for patient welfare. Best of luck with your conscience. I don’t know how people like you can sleep at night.

  17. P.S.

    You talk about going to court before going to a Bais Din. You talk about underfunded impoverished Yeshivas.

    What about the underfunded impoverished parents that have to pay multiple tuitions and the struggle of having to go to work and make those Yeshiva tuitions while the children are at home because Yeshivas under the leadership of Rabbonim like yourself have illegally excluded the children from coming to school. the Yeshivas have turned this in to a legal situation.

    What about the struggle of having to pay multiple thousands of dollars to convene a Bais Din? All the schools have to do is honor the parents legal right to have a religious exemption to vaccinations which is clearly laid out in the NY State Health code. This is a legal matter because the schools are breaking the law. The exclusion must happen if there is an outbreak in a particular school, and at the order of the commissioner of Department of Health. I have contacted both comissioners of NNYC and Nassau county and they have confirmed that there has been no order to exclude from any Yeshivas currently that do not have an outbreak in the school

    https://www.health.ny.gov/prevention/immunization/handbook/section_1_requirements.htm

    https://govt.westlaw.com/nycrr/Document/I4fc8944acd1711dda432a117e6e0f345?viewType=FullText&originationContext=documenttoc&transitionType=CategoryPageItem&contextData=(sc.Default)

  18. Thank you DOCTOR Glatt for speaking your “truth”! BH – it’s getting clearer & clearer who are the authentic healers in our communities & who are the impo$ter$. The ONLY way that you could intimidate people into worshiping the vaccine idol is with your vaccine-derived money. You simply can’t fool ALL the people ALL the time!

    It took too long but finally parents are openly talking. Had we really internalized the concept of fearing ONLY Hash-m – the vaccine hoax would have been dispelled LONG ago! For over 25 years I’ve been openly attempting to get my fellow “y’rai Shamayim” to speak up. But, alas! When we don’t know how to FEEL our own pain – we’re not as driven to help expose the vaccine lie & prevent tragedies in others. So – I wasn’t successful in lighting fires under people until 10 years ago – that was slow going because, again, I see that Genuine Yiras Hash-m is mostly theoretical & internalized in few. I get it – it’s scary to be disapproved of by family, friends, shuls, schools, etc. it takes guts!

    I’ve blessedly endured LOTS of flak over the years to my husband’s & family’s chagrin. I can do that because I KNOW what’s emes & what’s sheker! I also know biology & the miraculously intricate way that the immune system works when not abused & violently violated by injecting infectious filth cultured on animal & human tissue doused in a toxic soup into a precious child’s pure bloodstream.

    You could never have a normal open & relaxed conversation with vax “believers”. They just go on to attack the messenger 100% of the time. They are so petrified that they would need to confront the truth!

    As I tell my children over & over – when they BEG me to stop talking about vax for the last 2+ decades, so that they’re not ostracized by their unfortunately weak-minded, fear-filled friends – I will NEVER EVER wipe out of my memory all the turbulence & strife that vaccines have wrought upon our lives in terms of the “mild stuff” – ADHD, Anorexia, neurological issues, & weakened immunity. I have & will continue to do ALL it takes to prevent 1 family from having to deal with ADHD turbulence for even 1hour!

    WHO do you think sets vaccine policy for all the world’s children? Moral & G-d conscious upstanding wise & humble healers? Guess again, my dear friends – find the WHO vaccine policy pdf online. Read it & read BETWEEN the lines. Check out pages 99-100 for some “innocuous side effects” that don’t seem to actually do anything THAT drastic to a child’s long term well being…how bad could anorexia be in a baby anyway? You want to know why we have more than 10k singles? Around 500+ suicides in the “frum” world? Mixed up in the brain processing disorders? Never mind all the other inflammatory autoimmune & life-shortening vaccine induced destruction….

    Did anyone ever ask their pediatrician if they ever saw healthy nonvaxd children before becoming a pHARMa-vax REP? How could they possibly recognize “adverse effects” if all they ever saw or see are vaxd kids?

    Isn’t it amazing how they aren’t even interested in discovering why so many children in their practice are “immune-compromised” so that they have to make a whole hullabaloo that everyone else has to be vaxd in order to “protect” the immune-compromised and chemo-treated children who these pediatricians “cared for” since they were born?

    I could go on & on – the book is being organized. I’d love for the book to be a loving collaboration of achdus. In that zechus may all our children be healed & may Hash-m “take care of” our homegrown enemies. If only our “leaders” would trust Hash-m to provide CLEAN monies for their schools, shuls , & institutions – we could celebrate a true miraculous victory over our enemies!

    Please send your vax story/insights to EMMUNITY101@protonmail.com

  19. BS”D
    With over 50 years of experience in health care, plus my own personal life observations I can clearly and assuredly say that Dr Glatt is either self-blinded ignoramus or a willing accomplice to what is one of, if THE, worst frauds & endangerment of human life & health since the black plague.
    The responders above provided many links to true, reliable & accurate reports & studies showing clearly the lack of benefit & the opposite the plethora of danger of the vaccine industry’s products, as well the heinous criminal fraud involved in pushing their products.
    ALL of the people in the WHO’s board of experts on vaccines and drugs have financial connections to pharmaceutical companies!
    He tried to belittle comments of fraud & bribery by asking the cynical question of are people accusing ALL the doctors & scientists in CDC, FDA, WHO etc as being such. The unfortunate truth is that most are & those who aren’t are warned to shut up or are fired, or are publicly disgraced, their careers ruined by money paid or threats of money to be withheld from any laboratory or college etc that would hire them. Some, including a colleague of mine, have even been silenced mafia style after being warned shut up or you will be silenced.
    I, & several colleagues of mine have treated vaccine injured children & adults. Of all the children I have treated who had/have injurious sequelae from childhood diseases were/are those who caught those diseases directly from their vaccines or from vaccinated children. The vaccine strains are more virulent, more complicated to treat than the natural ones, since they are mutations after the original RNA has been changed in the processing.
    Now to the EBM side. I & all my friends in childhood had Measles, Mumps, German Measles, Chicken pox. We all got over it FINE and our immune systems were strengthened by it. Absolutely NONE of us died, NONE of us got brain damaged or crippled or disfigured from any of those diseases. Some of us who had been undersized got spurts of healthy growing. We got lifetime immunity, e.g. when there were waves of any of those diseases decades later neither nor any other adult who had gotten those diseases as children caught them, while younger adults who HAD gotten vaccines as a child did!
    Oh & BTW in actual practice it has been discovered that for the majority of people who IF they gained ANY immunity at all from a vaccine, including MMR, it only lasts for a maximum of 7.4 years, & for many only a few months. Is that worth having mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, MSG, ether, fetal DNA, monkey kidney remnants etc into your child’s body? Is that short lived if at all immunity worth taking the risk of your precious child becoming another one of the millions of proven statistics of vaccine injury or death?

    BTW here’s a quote
    is a matter of United States Public Record.

    In 1992, during the first years of the Clinton Administration…

    A major agricultural company reportedly
    contaminated 70% of the United States food
    supply with a toxic poison.

    This poison is BANNED in 38 countries.

    Yet, every day, in U.S. supermarkets…

    It’s hidden directly inside the food you put in your mouth…

    You can’t find it, because corrupt government officials have ruled it NOT be shown on our food labels…

    And Washington D.C. insiders secretly profit every time you eat it!
    As Monsanto prepared to take a particular chemical to market, they knew they were going to face government and FDA heat regarding these violent and poisonous results.
    So they bought their way in.
    Using a bottomless lobbying budget, they planted 15 Monsanto officials in key government and FDA positions to pass the policies they wanted.
    And as you can see by this evidence published by leading scientific research journal Science Direct…
    ALL of the people listed here were either/or in the Bush Sr, Clinton, Obama gov’ts & became employees or representatives of Monsanto..
    *Congressman Toby Moffett became a consultant
    *Senator Dennis DeConcini became a Legal Consultant
    *Dep’t Director of the FDA & HFS Margeret Miller became a Chemical lab Supervisor
    *White House Senior Staff Marda Hale became Director of Int’l Affairs
    * Sect’y of Commerce became Mickey Kantor became a Board Member
    * White app’t to the CSA & B=Gore’s SDR Virginia Weldon became VP of Public policy
    *WHite House Communications Josh King became Dir of Int’l Gov’t Affairs
    *Gore’s Chief Domestic Policy Advisor David Beler became VP, Gov’t & Public Affairs
    * WH App’t Consumer Adv Carol Tucker Forman became Monsanto Lobbyist
    * Dept’y Admin EPA Linda Fischer also became VP, Gov’t & Public Affairs
    * USDA, EPA Lidia Watrud became Manager New Technologies
    * Dept’y Commissioner FDA Micheal Taylor became VP Public Policy
    Senator 7Sect’y of State Hillary Clinton became Monsanto Consultant in Rose Law Firm
    * Dir USDA, NIFA Roger Beachy became Dir Mnosanto’s Danforth center
    * AG Negotiator rep Islam Siddiqui became Monsanto Lobyyist.

  20. Unfortunately our community is a ship of fools captained by stupid idiots posing as gedolim. Anybody whose name is on the Slifkin ban is a stupid idiot, and Shmuel Kaminetsky is one of them. Seek guidance elsewhere.

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